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The various Islamic entities took the opportunity to start a massive Jihad, and without any levies to fight it off, all I had to bring to the fight was a retinue I couldn't afford to keep. With the crippled economy, that meant my retinues just existing put me more in the red every month. Because of the retinue nerf, I was at twice the limit for them as well, meaning I had a sizable monthly cost at even the non-replenish setting. Where I previously has a combined strength of around 80K, far surpassing any rival empires including the Holy Roman Empire and the Golden Horde, the penalty gave me a -100% on vassal levies. The huge vassal limit penalty crippled my economy and military. I tried to make some Kingdom titles to reduce it, but I only had enough gold to make five, which did not make a significant impact. When I got back on, I was at ~80 vassals with a limit of 33. When I last signed off I had just reformed the Roman Empire.

#CRUSADER KINGS 2 VASSAL LIMIT PATCH#

Man, I wish I had paid better attention to the patch notes prior to the update, because it completely fucked my Byzantium Ironman game. Instead they rebelled and the outside forces invaded due to his weakened state.

#CRUSADER KINGS 2 VASSAL LIMIT UPGRADE#

King met the requirement for feudalism, converted and boom, lost everything within 2 years because the rest of his vassals didn't upgrade with him. They were doing pretty well expanding and all that.

I'll have to investigate more.ДЄccording to what I have read, Tribal Vassals, which meet the requirement, get upgraded alongside with you. Is this another layer of defense the tribal regions get, that it just isn't worth conquering them because of the different government type? I've also heard reports (unconfirmed) that military organization removes the defensive attrition at rank 2, which seems absurdly early. edit- This also makes me wonder how conquering tribal holdings will work. I've also heard of some bugs with converting to a merchant republic, so I imagine not everything is working perfectly just yet.

That's what I meant by waiting to convert, gotta let your vassals be ready (hopefully). Hrm does this mean that your vassals that meet the requirements will upgrade to feudal with you? Or do they get a choice, or just not bother? I was hoping that if you waited for them to finish upgrading their hill forts (and whatever else is necessary) they would come along for the ride automatically. That or pray my assassination plot works on the Finnish King because Ragnar is set to inherit there. I need 9 more provinces with 4 being relatively easy suomonesko holy wars, 2 being trickier Pictland holy wars, 1 being a Finnish province I have a claim on and the other two being much trickier involving hoping Ragnar can live to 75 and rewarring with Denmark and breaking a truce with Finland to take a second province.

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Still got a while to go before I can feudalise but Ragnar at 67 inhertied the Kingdom of Norway and that has lead to a full tilt race to try and get the provinces I need to form the empire. It's a pretty cool feature and I do like it. Look at Tribal as a quick way of establishing a dominion, then converting to feudalism or republicism.ДЄye, I conquered 7/13 of Ireland and was well within my limits and saw that a son was going to inherit it when Ragnar Lodbrok (squee!) died. Potentially you could just stay Tribal, but at some point vassal limit would prevent you from maintaining the kingdom/empire. Under Elective Gavelkind, Junior heirs (not your main heir) has a chance of becoming independent upon receiving a crown title without starting a war.ДЄnd before you ask, yes, it is meant to be this way as a method of curbing Tribal expansionism and forcing you to convert to feudalism or republicism. Just wondering if this is a new addition or if when you owned a de jure Kingdom before it would split when gavelkind happened?Д¬ertainly slowed down the creation of the Norse Empire since I've lost the subjugation casus belli after reforming the norse empire.Д®lective Gavelkind is different from normal Gavelkind. So, I had nigh on all of Scandanavia save for a couple Finnish provinces and the Atlantic islands with only the Kingdom of Sweden formed so that when gavelkind happened the realm wouldn't be split but once the old man died (75 and raiding all over the shop, poor Ragnar Lodbrok couldn't get a word in) it was split anyway into Finland and Denmark (with Norway splitting from Denmark after the Danish King died not much after).

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